Stickman Readers' Submissions April 20th, 2010

Mongering – ‘Morals’ And Where You Can Stick Them

The Pattaya perspective

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1. Of or concerned with the judgment of the goodness or badness of human action and character: moral scrutiny; a moral quandary.

2. Teaching or exhibiting goodness or correctness of character and behavior: a moral lesson.

3. Conforming to standards of what is right or just in behavior; virtuous: a moral life.

4. Arising from conscience or the sense of right and wrong: a moral obligation.

5. Having psychological rather than physical or tangible effects: a moral victory; moral support.

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6. Based on strong likelihood or firm conviction, rather than on the actual evidence: a moral certainty.


1. The lesson or principle contained in or taught by a fable, a story, or an event.

2. A concisely expressed precept or general truth; a maxim.

3. morals Rules or habits of conduct, especially of sexual conduct, with reference to standards of right and wrong: a person of loose morals; a decline in the public morals.

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With the above definition in mind it would seem, to me at least, that while many things are universally considered to be immoral such as murder, the morality of various other things would depend upon where you happened to be situated on the planet at the time. Adultery still attracts the death penalty in some parts of the world.

We are required to abide by the laws, customs and to a varying extent culture, of the country we are in regardless of the laws of other countries or our home/native country. You can smoke dope in Amsterdam but I wouldn’t try it in Singapore. You can have a beer just about any where but I would not chance it in Tehran.

So logic tells me that by extension, when it comes to morality we should consider the moral code of the country we happen to be in.

We live in a shrinking world due to international air travel and the internet, and a global moral code will probably evolve someday. We already have transnational laws that see kiddy fiddlers getting what they deserve regardless of where they commit their crimes. Hopefully the global moral code will soon arrive at those corners of the earth where the icky stuff and polygamy is still morally condoned. (I have no moral objection to polygamy but one wife at a time is enough for me.)

I found the submission “The Making of a Monger” by Bob Likes Rice 24/3/10, very confronting and at first disturbing.

“I find at times the act becomes secondary to the satisfaction received through the knowledge that this is against her will truly, but she complies for monetary reasons. Many times I am more interested in what she won’t do sexually then what she will do as placing a sum of money in front of her that causes her to break whatever moral boundary she has set in place only serves to send her further down into a spiral of degradation which I can revel in knowing I contributed to it.”

Well if BLR is pulling out bank notes until his selected service provider (bargirl) CONSENTS to whatever depraved activity he has in mind then IMHO it is his business. Maybe I am not too far removed from BLR. I know for certain that I have employed BGs that would have rather have been somewhere else and with someone else but I get no kick from this, I just don’t care, I’m doing the paying and she is there for my pleasure.

I was down in Pattaya last week and witnessed something I have heard about but never seen or quite believed. (Well I can believe just about anything in the LOS.)

I went to visit one of my Tiny Teeruk’s (Tiny T) friends, a katoey, who is the mamasan at what we presumed was a gay bar as we were told that there were no girls working there, only guys and most of them were gay – nothing unusual so far for Pattaya.

We eventually found the place, not in Boyz Town as I was expecting but out of the way on Soi 15 off Soi Buakoa. Happiness Karaoke, opening hours from 10 pm to 6 am, a little strange but hey, we are talking Pattaya.

We got there just after opening and there were no customers, just a bunch of Thai guys outside. We went inside with Tiny T’s katoey friend and ordered drinks and sang karaoke. Shortly thereafter three smoking hot Thai girls walked in, the look of them just screamed “BAR GIRL” to me. One of these chicks latched on to a chrome pole and did one the best routines I have seen for a while and then went and sat with her friends. The lights above the stage came on and all the guys came inside and lined up on the stage as if in a police line up. The girls made their selections and the rest of the guys wai’d and made their way back outside, a few of them blowing kisses at ME as they went.

Tiny T’ asked me if I understood what had just taken place. I had a fairly good idea but played dumb and asked her to explain. The girls were paying for the young guys to sit with them and katoey mamasan friend had just reported that the boys were being barfined for the night, “but aren’t those boys gay” I enquired, “yes they are gay” was the reply. WTF?

Later, after we had left the Karaoke bar Tiny T’ was still shaking her head in amazement “those girls get paid for having sex with many men and then go and pay other men for sex! What a waste of money, they must be so stupid”. Yeah I was thinking ‘waste’ as well but from a slightly different perspective to that of my Tiny T’.

Two possible reasons spring to mind as to why these gorgeous chicks pay for gay guys to have sex with them.

  1. The gays will not ask for phone numbers and harass them for more boom boom.

    • The girls are in BLR’s camp and get pleasure from knowing “that this is against her will truly, but she (HE in this case) complies for monetary reasons.”

Don’t you just love Thai morality?

With all this in mind, the entire Thailand mongering morality debate should be re-examined within the template of the “Thai” moral code. Yes…you must go and read all of those bloody submissions again. Well many subs were quite good IMHO but a few of the others…Oh please spare me!! I wonder if Stick actually read the entirety of one particularly repetitive, boring sub that must have been more than 12,000 words; I tried but ended up just skimming.

But let us not panic!

Dear fellow Thailand whore mongers.

If things stay true to previous form the LOS will be one of the last places on the planet to adopt a global moral standard. In the meantime we will just have to content ourselves with judging our activities in Thailand by the currently prevalent Thai moral standard. Yes… This does mean that you can have an extra mia noi and an extra gik (two extras on Sundays) and we will increase Dana’s trannie allowance to six per day on the condition that he never tells what he does with them in that card board box of his. (I was down beach Road the other day and did not spot the cardboard box; rumor has it that it was exchanged for a padded cell). Korski can attach himself to a portable IV drip containing a cocktail of Viagra and yaa baa, this will halve his life expectancy and we will all miss his writing but I bet his final Stickman submission will be a blast. And we will induct Sawadee2000 into the priesthood of a religion of his choosing.

Let us all just hope that ‘modern’ western style (feminazi) morality does not arrive in the Kingdom any time soon or the party will be over folks. We will all have to transfer our interests to the Philippines where they already have morals but keep them out of sight and locked away like all good hypocrites and only bring them out for church on Sundays.

Many people reading this will be assuming that I am trying to justify my previous actions. I have not mongered for a while now but I feel no guilt or shame for my previous or potential future actions. I will quote an acronym from that great Australian Sage and minstrel ‘KevinBloodyWilson’(.com) D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F.

DO I LOOK LIKE I GIVE A FUCK (what you think) Dilligaf!

No one from this site has ever introduced themselves to me and this is no surprise as I conduct myself in an innocuous way when in LOS . I am rarely out and about after 1am and I have never caused any trouble or brought negative attention to myself. But should I come face to face with someone who wants to give me the benefit of their moralistic wisdom they had better be prepared to hear more about Dilligaf.

Happy times to all.

The Yobbo

Stickman's thoughts:

Interesting to hear your report of the spectacle of girls choosing their guy du jour.

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