Stickman Readers' Submissions November 8th, 2005

How To Be With A Thai Girl Without Being Her Sponsor Part 1

How To Be With A Thai Girl Without Being Her Sponsor: Part 1: The Swiss Village A Cinderella Story

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on and on.)

Picture comment: “She's got legs, she knows how to use them.” Photo taken in a local strip club.

There is a village in Isaan they call Swiss. Many years ago a woman of this village went to work in Pattaya for a holiday resort mostly frequented by Swiss nationals where she met an older gentleman, married him and moved to Switzerland.
When she was having a more or less stable life in Switzerland, she brought more relatives over and introduced them to Swiss guys she knew. Now, one fourth of the whole female population of the village lives in Switzerland. A survey done by a sociology
Professor from MU showed that almost none of the young girls want to become nurses, teachers or stewardesses. No, 80% of this village girls just want to marry a Swiss. I am deeply flattered.

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Here is a part of the report (with some little comments from Statler & Waldorf):

Instead of focusing on the marriage for economic benefit or presenting some Northeastern women as the ‘goods for export’ like what the media regularly does, Dr. R.’s research emphasizes on life experiences of those women
who get married to foreigners and live in foreign countries. It sees the bond made between the women and their family in the motherland, as well as the adjustment to social and cultural foreign contexts, knowledge, understanding and practices
regarding the role of male and female, marriage and sexuality under change.

Area and Study Methods

This research primarily earns information from the study of Ban X, the village of the Northeastern Thailand, where 84 out of 330 females marry foreigners. Dr. R. said that she knows this village from a newspaper’s article in Thai and
English, which tells her the account of the ‘Cinderella’ village girls. She then had a five-month field research from August, 2004, to January, 2005.

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The study methods include an in-depth interview with some women who have married foreigners during their homeland visit. Additional information is gained in terms of talking with their family members, relatives and friends there as well as
more details from other villages in the nearby area.

From the field research, it is found that Ban X enjoys similar general condition to several villages; that is, drought which causes infertile agriculture. Consequently, the local have to work outside the village. In doing so, some of the
local women have a chance to meet ‘Farangs’ and become their wife. The transnational marriage of Ban X started 20 years ago with ‘Mae Nang’, a woman marrying to a Swiss. Then, the network of ‘Farang’s
wives’ has become extensive from Mae Nang’s relatives to other 84 women in the village.

Northeastern Women and Transnational Emigration

‘Mae Nang’, the first Ban X woman who marries a foreigner

Mae Nang is the first woman of Ban X who gets married with a male foreigner and leaves Thailand for a foreign country. Now, 59, she has been for 22 years married to a Swiss. Mae Nang was born to a poor family. Her parents have only 5-Rai
land while they have to take care of 9 children. Since her parents could not afford any advanced studies, Mae Nang only completed the primary level.

Poverty-stricken, Mae Nang decided to leave her family and worked for a furniture shop outside the village when she was only 10 years old. At the time, she met her first husband, a Chinese from Nakon Sawan province who worked as a carpenter
at the shop. When she reached 30, Mae Nang married the man and gave birth to 2 daughters. Sadly, when their children completed the primary level, Mae Nang got divorced and had to take care of her daughters by herself.

Despite struggling very hard to survive, Mae Nang could not make ends meet. Then, her friends suggested that she should work in Pattaya. There, she met her current Swiss husband who is 10 years older than she is. Both of them decided to try
living together in Switzerland for 3 months to see if they could get along well or not. After the period, Mae Nang returned to Thailand and picked up her daughters to live with her in Switzerland.

While staying in Switzerland, Mae Nang did not want to depend only on her husband. She thus found a job and, after she earned some money, she opened a small grocery of various Thai ingredients. Then, the woman owned a Thai restaurant of which
the business runs well thanks to her hard work and strict savings.

When her life is stable, Mae Nang returns to Thailand and picks up over 10 of her relatives to Switzerland. All of them work in the restaurant and most, no later than 3 months, get married with foreigners there. As a result, the ‘network’
of Thai women getting married with foreigners is extended. Now, there are around 84 female villagers from Ban X who live with ‘Farang’ husbands.

The story of Mae Nang inspires a lot of young girls and women in the village. They said that they wanted to marry ‘Farang’ because it brings to them money, social security and life stability.

(Comment Statler & Waldorf: She shows them: Don’t bother getting a job or an education – just marry a westerner!)

Network Building in the Western World

According to research conducted in 2004 by the National Economic and Social Development Board (NESDB), out of 219 north-eastern women who marry a foreigner, 54% meet their future husband at their office, especially the entertainment venue,

(comment Statler & Waldorf: Office, jinga? Bureau uniform wearing cowboy boots lor?)

20% know their future husband through their friends and relatives,

(comment Statler & Waldorf: Friends from the office?)

over 20% meet their husband during a trip,

(comment Statler & Waldorf: Business trip?)

and around 1 or 2% use a matchmaking company through the internet to work it out.

(comment Statler & Waldorf: 54 + 20 + 20 = 94 % I simply can not understand why always we think all Thai girls in the West are ex-prostitutes. It is just some, and not all.)

For the case of Ban X, most of the Thai women marry a foreigner because of the network of their relatives and friends. Only few find their husband at office or by a matchmaking company.

Female villagers from Ban X can relate themselves to the western world through their family, relatives and friends. After they immigrate into the foreign country, their family or friends will help them out in terms of visa application, plane
tickets, work and temporary residences during the first 3 months. Sometimes, these married women bring with them their husband’s family or friends when they visit the village. In doing so, other women there will be introduced to the foreigners.
Consequently, this village’s network in Switzerland becomes gradually extensive until it is called, ‘Swiss Village’ or ‘Ban X Swiss.’

‘East’ Meets ‘West’: Cultural Interaction and Adjustment

Dr. R. considers that the cross-cultural marriage made by north-eastern women and foreigners under the cultural interaction context should be viewed creatively and resourcefully rather than the status of cash commodities, which brings economic
profits to the country, as stated in the report of NESDB.

(comment Statler & Waldorf: Yes, I think this researcher is indeed very creative. I was laughing for 5 minutes non-stop in my bath tub about the office work in the entertainment area. But don’t they have strip club called ‘after
school’ in the Soi Cowboy? According to this researcher the girls there are doing their homework and get additional tutoring. I am sure it prepares them for their job i.e. marring a ‘farang’.)

Therefore, the emphasis of this research is changed from economic profit to life experiences of the north-eastern women who live in a foreign country due to the marriage with foreigners. Dr. R.’s research will explore the emotion,
feeling, imagination, value, behavior and lifestyle of the couple resulted from cultural interaction.

The research provides some in-depth case studies of the life of 4 women: Chaba, Om, Ta and Rat. Their story, despite different in details, can be summarized to the fact that those women marry foreigners because they want to run away from
repeated poverty and to act with gratitude as Thais believe that good daughters have to take care of their parents. However, the women explained that money is not the mere factor that encourages them to such marriage. Moreover, foreigners do not
pay attention to the past and the female virginity.

(comment Statler & Waldorf: They have been prostitutes in their past and still get a high dowry. Not only that, they get a well paid, long term sponsorship)

They seem more respectful and responsible than Thai male. Some women who have got married before said marrying foreigners is like ‘a miracle’ because their body remains valuable and returns powerful.

(comment Statler & Waldorf: I don’t understand the last sentence. I can only interpret it that from prostituting oneself to many people they only prostitute themselves to one person and due to the less usage of the commodity (i.e.
their body) the commodity remains valuable and gets returned shiny and polished. Something like that.)

However, the couple of cross-cultural marriage usually faces problems on different language, religion, value and opinion against which both the wife and the husband have to cooperatively go if they want to sustain their relationship. Some
couples spend 3 months together without saying anything to each other but using sing languages and drawing pictures.

(comment Statler & Waldorf: My dear Lord – this is worse than I thought. Why don’t they marry monkeys from the zoo? Sorry for the last comment. This is just very sad.)

Normally, the husband will send his wife to attend a language class after which the wife will be fluent in speaking only.

(comment Statler & Waldorf: She never will be able to do homework with her kids. The kids will teach their mom)

The foreigner who marries a Thai woman is mostly an old man who experienced a divorce or lost his wife. He then feels lonely but, after getting married again with a Thai woman, turns fulfilled in life and impressed with Thai culture.

(comment Statler & Waldorf: Or what they sell them as Thai culture: Matthew 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Their success in the Thai-Western relationship is that they never have clarifying talk.
If they would both lay their cards on the table, what their real goals in the relationship are, they would separate immediately. THAIS NEVER EVER WANT A CLEAR RELATIONSHIP, LIKE I STAND HERE AND YOU ARE THERE. EVEN THEY MARRY THAIS. AS YOU NEVER
CAN GET A CLEAR ANSWER LIKE YES OR NO FROM A THAI. IT ALL REMAINS ON THE OUTSIDE, NEVER TOUCHES THE INSIDE. LIKE THE THAIS DRESS IN AN ELEGANT BUSINESS OUTFIT BUT CAN’T COUNT TO 3. SUMMARY: THE PERFECT MAN IS FUNNY, GOOD LOOKING, PAYS ME
AS MUCH AS I WANT AND DOES NOT ASK ME MANY QUESTIONS AND DOES NOT GIVE ME A HEADACHE. I JUST CLAIM ALL MY RIGHTS FROM THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM WITHOUT COMMITTING MYSELF TO ANYTHING AT ALL.)

Theoretical Examination: Relations of the World and the Local

The trans-national and trans-regional migration by the modern people brings about cultural space that can be internationalized and localized. Although the telecommunication technology links different communities of this world, the local identity
is not disappeared or faded in the current of globalization.

(comment Statler & Waldorf: Thais will always be Thais)

In analyzing the connection and interrelation between the local and the world, from the cross-cultural marriage by Thai women and foreigners, it is found that the local emerges itself in the world. Women from Ban X or others in the Northeastern
Thailand who marry foreigners have re-made the Thai-Lao community in the world context. No matter where the women live, they still retain their relationship with their homeland under the value of daughters of gratitude. After they settle down
firmly, they help the relatives who face hardship.

(comment Statler & Waldorf: They will never adapt to their host country and always see it as just a way to make money. Daughters of gratitude? I sometimes wonder what Thai guys do other than drinking, gambling and visiting brothels. No
wonder so many Thai kids become gays with these fathers as role models.)

The researcher, nevertheless, finds that, while local identities can struggle in globalization, discourses, thinking, and norms in the world level are still influential. The experience of cross-national migration of the north-eastern women
exposes them to the western idea and tradition, particularly those concerning male-female relationship, marriage and sexuality. Such experience will more or less cause stress and conflict to the people involved in terms of individual identity
and daily social interaction.

(comment Statler & Waldorf: Yes, it causes them some stress to find out that women are dating men in the west not only for financial purposes. It also means that most westerns just see them as what they are: Office workers from the entertainment
areas)

Conclusion

The study about cross-cultural marriage phenomenon between north-eastern Thai women and foreigners under relationship of the local and the world will enable us to understand the culture of the modern world. Such culture is no longer static
as we see ‘Thailand’ in the area that is not Thai.

(comment Statler & Waldorf: Yes, the planet outside Thailand is very E.T.)

The women who marry foreigners still foster their strong relations with their homeland on the one hand; on the other, experiences they gain from this marriage and migration provide them with social space where thinking and traditional norms
regarding the meaning of sexuality and marriage is examined and negotiated.

(comment Statler & Waldorf: Short time 1500, Overnight 2500, Marriage 2 Million but negotiable)

Stickman's thoughts:

Normally I would not allow a submission like this, but it leads into part 2 quite well…


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